In a interview aired on “The Kelly File” Wednesday, filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza and former domestic terrorist Bill Ayers butted heads on everything from American exceptionalism to the violent ploys of the Weather Underground in the 60′s and 70′s to the actions of Martin Luther King Jr.
At one point, Ayers openly admitted that he “is not proud to be an American” and went as far as to say he doesn’t buy into the notion of American exceptionalism, a point at which D’Souza steadfastly disagreed with him.
D’Souza, who immigrated to the United States as an exchange student in 1978, said he can see why the US is an exceptional nation because he’s lived in other cultures.
Ayers, in defense of his actions in the past, said:
“The reality is we were never terrorists, and Dinesh does call our group terrorists and that’s not true because terrorism, even if you take Webster’s definition, it’s force and coercion intended to spread fear and panic to make your point and it often involves killing civilians. We never killed anyone; we did noisy, loud, very open destruction of property at a time when 6000 people a week were being murdered by our government.”
D’Souza squandered that notion by saying, “there was a big difference between Martin Luther King [Jr.] breaking the law and Bill Ayers breaking the law.” Dr. King used non-violent methods to protest an unjust society and proudly went to jail to make a point. Ayers used violent tactics and fled justice, D’Souza explained.
The terrorism actions D’Souza was speaking of can be found in another segment with Megyn Kelly. There is also a interview in which former NYPD and FBI agents dispute Ayers’ claims that he and his group didn’t commit terrorism acts.
This post originally appeared on Western Journalism – Informing And Equipping Americans Who Love Freedom